Among them is Pence’s former nationwide safety adviser, Keith Kellogg, who was subpoenaed by the committee on Tuesday and was with former President Donald Trump a lot of the day on January 6.
Multiple sources inform NCS that some people near Pence could also be keen, both voluntarily or underneath the guise of a “friendly subpoena,” to supply important info on how Trump and his allies tried to pressure the former vice president to overturn the outcomes of the 2020 election.

According to sources acquainted with the discussions, some Pence aides are proving extra keen to interact with the committee than beforehand made public.

Chairman Bennie Thompson confirmed to NCS final week the committee was in the method of reaching out to Pence associates however mentioned their efforts had been met with blended success.

“Well, yes and no,” Thompson replied when requested if Pence associates had been cooperative. “I don’t want to just say yes, when there have been some people who clearly have said no. So we’ve had, you know, people on both sides.”

Thompson didn’t reveal the names of any of the people the committee has been in contact with or might attain out to. But sources inform NCS the checklist consists of a number of people who’re near Pence, together with former chief counsel Greg Jacob and former chief of workers Marc Short. Also of potential curiosity to the committee, in keeping with a supply with information, are Pence’s earlier chief of workers Nick Ayers, former legislative affairs director Chris Hodgson, political adviser Marty Obst, and former particular assistant Zach Bauer.

In addition, former Pence press secretary and Trump communications aide Alyssa Farah, who left the administration in early December 2020, has voluntarily met with Republicans on the House choose committee and offered info, as NCS reported final month.
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Jacob, Hodgson, Ayers and Bauer didn’t reply to NCS’s request for remark. Kellogg and Short declined to remark.

In an e-mail, Obst advised NCS he has not had “any contact with the January 6th committee to this point and no one has reached out to me.”

On Tuesday night time, a federal choose denied Trump’s makes an attempt to withhold data from the committee, dealing a forceful blow to the previous president’s efforts to maintain greater than 700 pages of paperwork from his White House secret. Though Trump’s authorized staff says it intends to attraction, the ruling raises doubts over his means to cease Pence aides from serving to the committee.

Critical witnesses

Kellogg on Tuesday turned the primary individual in Pence’s inner circle to be subpoenaed by the committee. In its letter to Kellogg, the committee particularly expressed curiosity in studying extra about at least one January 2021 assembly with Trump and White House lawyer Pat Cipollone, throughout which Trump insisted that Pence not certify the election.
Retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg speaks to the media in the lobby at Trump Tower, November 15, 2016.

The committee additionally said that Kellogg was at the White House on January 6 because the assault unfolded and has “direct information” relating to Trump’s “statements about and reactions to the Capitol insurrection.”

While Kellogg served as Pence’s nationwide safety adviser, he’s thought-about a key witness due to his proximity to Trump on January 6. The former president’s then nationwide safety adviser, Robert O’Brien, was out of city that day.

According to sources who spoke to NCS, Jacob has additionally emerged as an individual of great curiosity to the committee. As Pence’s normal counsel, Jacob performed a important function in countering efforts to influence the previous vice chairman to not certify the electoral outcomes.

Jacob was a part of Pence’s staff who pushed again towards John Eastman, the conservative lawyer who embraced fringe legal theories concerning the vice chairman’s means to overturn the election.
The committee has lengthy thought-about Jacob a possible fact-witness in their probe. But he turned extra outstanding following a report in The Washington Post, which NCS has confirmed, that Eastman, who was advising Trump, despatched Jacob an e-mail throughout the riot blaming Pence for inflicting the violence at the US Capitol.
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The pursuit of cooperation from Jacob, in addition to others near Pence, underscores the committee’s curiosity in studying extra about any strain associated to blocking certification of the election outcomes.

“There was very clearly a plan on the political coup side to mobilize a campaign to get Mike Pence to block certification of the electoral college votes,” Rep. Jamie Raskin, a choose committee member, advised NCS.

(*6*) Raskin mentioned, including that Eastman is “obviously a figure of intense interest to the January 6 select committee.”

Jacob might present a first-hand account of Eastman’s function in that effort. Eastman was subpoenaed by the committee on Monday.

A fraught political path

The committee’s work presents a big political problem to Pence as he makes an attempt to chart a path separate from Trump, elevating cash and constructing out a staff forward of a possible White House run in 2024.

While Pence has defended his refusal to delay the counting of electoral votes on January 6, people near him have acknowledged the peril in participating too overtly with the committee, which many Republicans have denounced as partisan.

The committee’s curiosity in a few of Pence’s closest allies — and the query concerning the extent to which these aides could cooperate — complicate an already difficult political highway forward for the previous vice chairman.

Pence wants to take care of his distance from Trump’s battle to overturn the election whereas additionally cultivating his ties to the previous President’s base.

Then there may be the looming query of whether or not Trump himself would possibly run for president once more. People near Pence have advised NCS that the previous vice chairman, as soon as identified for his unwavering loyalty, will not wait to see what Trump decides.

The occasions of January 6 stay a supply of division between the previous vice chairman and Trump’s most loyal supporters inside the GOP. The hostility to the committee amongst many Republicans and conservative media means Pence must be cautious, mentioned David Kochel, an Iowa Republican operative.

“Pence needs to figure out how to defend his own actions to follow the Constitution while not hitting that trip wire,” Kochel mentioned.

Pence has repeatedly reaffirmed his determination to certify the electoral rely since leaving workplace, saying his actions had been constitutional. He has even referred to as the trouble to overturn the 2020 election outcomes “un-American.”

And when requested at an occasion in Iowa final week who “told you to buck President Trump’s plan” on January 6, Pence replied bluntly, “James Madison.”

NCS’s Ryan Nobles, Paula Reid, and Alex Marquardt contributed to this report.



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